Rev George Mueller and his method of financial collections

Rev George Mueller and his method of financial collections

I have absolutely no doubt that many Canadian, American evangelical pastors included now steal, are falsely lying, unacceptably misrepresenting the Biblical truth, EVEN FALSELY STILL pressurizing, twisting the arms of members and adherents to regularly tithe to their storehouse, to the Pastor’s benefit, so the pastor can live high on the hog now.

(1 Thess 2:2 KJV) But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3 For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4 But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5 For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: 6 Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7 But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:

Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now also they would better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..

It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.

When expounding the truth, the Bible the bad preacher often wears colored glasses it seems that say “What’s in it for me”, says the preacher too?

So long as the preacher wears a nice suit, no matter how or how much he paid for his suit he is a good preacher it seems

Many Preachers do seem count on your ignorance of the Word of God as they often do also try convince you you’re way too dumb to argue with them, for God has spoken to them directly on the matter, and if you challenge them they tend to ignore you or kick you out..

(1 Cor 11:3 KJV) But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

(Eph 4:15 KJV) But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

(Eph 5:23 KJV) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

(John 14:16 KJV) And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

(John 14:26 KJV) But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

(John 15:26 KJV) But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

One of the first essential Social action as defined by the New Testament Books of Acts was the appointment of deacons and was also, still is, for the helping of the poor and needy persons in the local Church. This was also true even in the Old Testament where 1/7 of the tithe was given to the local poor persons.

(Acts 6:1 KJV) And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration (Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
>>There is only one ‘expert’ on church planting and that’s the Lord, and Zech. 4:6 warns us that it is not by might or power (and not by man’s wisdom- 1 Cor. chaps. 1-2). God told us to start a church in August of 2003 with no funds, no supporting churches, etc.- i.e., nothing other than God’s leading. A missionary and experienced administrator talked with us, and told us we were violating ‘every rule in the book’ and that we were headed to be another one of the failed plants in our area (of which there have been many). We obeyed, and God blessed, and here we are as Calvary Chapel Space Coast ready to send our first full time missionary, and start another church campus. All by God’s grace, and all for His glory!

I ran a home church for about 2 dozen poor persons for years, and I fed them every week freely too, and I never asked ANYONE FOR MONEY, never took one offering too, God supplied all I needed too.

Secondly a true Christian Ministry starts solely as a Faith Ministry, trusting in God to supply all of the needs ,and not rather being weak in the faith, by starting a tax exempt and a marketing commercial Corporation, even selling Books, tapes, video and things, aalso now openly begging, begging, begging OTHERS FOR MONEY.. with false posts like like this.. ” I have incorporated as a nonprofit under the name “A  Christian Ministries, Inc.” This is a pretty hefty step for me. It takes what has been a full time hobby and gives it legs to maybe be a full time full time endeavor into the future. Ultimately, the goal is for ACM to be self-sufficient, paying for itself off of book sales and products sold to churches, etc. At this time, however, donations are helpful. If that is of interests you, you may use the Paypal/credit card link on the ACM web page. . ”

As a direct result some people who do donate the money also do try to influence what can and cannot be preached too and do tie the hands of God here. Thus the Church Committee itself has to approve everything too.

“I rightfully still do not endorse any Christians adds, anyone, any person, any organization, any Church now trying to make any money from the gospel, or begging, asking for money or even any of the adds here. I also do not endorse any of Bibles, books, tapes listed here for sale too. Jesus said as we have freely received so we are freely to give. Hirelings in their greed and visible lack of faith don’t do that. I do believe we should have the faith for God to supply what anyone needs freely to anyone who needs it. “Rev George Muellar did.”

Note My sites solicits no funds, or donations, or money what so ever.. ( nor does it sell any Christian supposedly literature, media) and it has no political, denominational affiliations, aspirations. Do use and Distribute all this material freely. http://pbulow.tripod.com/

Faith Ministries and the EXAMPLE OF Rev George Mueller

The proper Christian Example- “No More Rich Seat/Poor Seat . George became the pastor of a small church in England. The church wanted to pay him a good salary from the money it received renting pews to rich church members who sat at the front of the church. (Poor members had to sit in the “cheap” seats in the back.) George told them that this had to stop if they wanted him to be their pastor. Even so, he did not allow the church to pay him a salary. He trusted God to meet his needs, and God did. George and his family never missed a meal and were always able to pay their rent. George began to sense, however, that God had something else for him to do. Praying Food into the Home. Each day as George walked the streets, he saw children everywhere who had no mom or dad. They lived on the streets or in state-run poorhouses, where they were treated badly. George felt God calling him to open an orphanage to take care of the children. George prayed, asking God to provide a building, people to oversee it, furniture, and money for food and clothing. God answered his prayers. The needs of the orphanage were met each day. Sometimes a wealthy person would send a large amount of money, or a child would give a small amount received as a gift or for doing chores. Many times food, supplies or money came at the last minute, but God always provided without George telling anyone about his needs. He just prayed and waited on God.. More than 10,000 children lived in the orphanage over the years. When each child became old enough to live on his own, George would pray with him and put a Bible in his right hand and a coin in his left. He explained to the young person that if he held onto what was in his right hand, God would always make sure there was something in his left hand as well.

Do you see any similarities between George Mueller’s and the Apostle Paul’s decisions to follow Jesus? How did George change after he became a follower of Jesus?
What did Mueller mean when he told the orphans to “hold onto the Bible in your right hand”?
Describe a time when God has answered your prayers and provided for you or your family.
Do you live by faith in God, to provide your needs, or do you rely on others, your job, your own efforts still? “
( Ironically many of his present supporters beg for money, sell his Books also to make money, instead of praying.)

for more see http://www.bsmi.org/download/mueller/GeorgeMuellerOfBristol.pdf

So see also

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/tax-exempt-donations-stranglehold/

“HOW TO ASCERTAIN THE WILL OF GOD
1. I seek at the beginning to get my heart into such a state that it has no will of its own in regard to a given matter. Nine-tenths of the trouble with people generally is just here. Nine-tenths of the difficulties are overcome when our hearts are ready to do the LORD’s will, whatever it may be. When one is truly in this state, it is usually but a little way to the knowledge of what His will is.

2. Having done this, I do not leave the result to feeling or simple impression. If so, I make myself liable to great delusions.

3. I seek the Will of the Spirit of God through, or in connection with, the Word of God. The Spirit and the Word must be combined. If I look to the Spirit alone without the Word, I lay myself open to great delusions also. If the Holy Ghost guides us at all, He will do it according to the Scriptures and never contrary to them.”   George Mueller 1805-1898 –from the classic biography of George Mueller, “George Müller of Bristol,” —

(Luke 14:26 KJV) If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

(Luke 14:33 KJV) So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of the people, priests receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding of receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

I ALSO RIGHTFULLY DO FIND IT CRUEL, UNBELIEVABLE THAT ANY PASTOR WOULD EXPECT NOW THE SOCIAL WELFARE RECIPIENT TO TITHE SO THE PASTOR NOW CAN HAVE A NICER CAR, A NICE HOME.
THIS ALL IS UNACCEPTABLE AND UNDENIABLE TOO.

Rev George Muller, famous founder of the Bristol orphanage, was one of the best-known early Plymouth Brethren figures . Mr. Muller also had a public falling-out with Darby. Those who sympathized with Darby became the “Closed Brethren” and those who sided with Muller were known as “Open Brethren.” The two strains of Brethrenism endure even today. A It was Rev George Mueller who had introduced D L Moody to the Plymouth Brethren, and it seems when George Muller of Bristol came up against the Dispensationalist doctrines of the Brethren movement, he severed all connection with it.

All pastors, they can merely live by faith in God to provide and now discontinue from giving out tax receipts on all donations and thus be free to speak as any ordinary citizen can. The Bible does not prohibit them from doing this now as well like Rev George Mueller did too.

Evangelical Pastors do not have to break the law.

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/

And I also do agree, 100% of all Churches too of all denominations should be annually investigated as should all politicians too (those who govern/lead through laws) even in regards to possible abuse of the collected donations. Some people think that Separation of Church and State politics, is the main issue that will help to stop the acts of much too many bad guys in politics and religion.. There are bad guys, bad Ministers now too continually in or out of religion in fact.

Separation of Church and State politics, and related corruption is just a very small small portion, issue.. Rather all major perversions, corruptions by anyone, politicians, priests, pastors are, is unacceptable anywhere and at anytime too. For both politicians, Pastors and cops all civil and public servants too are here to help look after the good welfare of the citizens and if they are not doing that JOB NOW properly they all should be helped to become unemployed for sure BY THEIR CORRUPTIONS, ABUSES BEING EXPOSED TO ALL..

Religious or not is not the issue.. but the second law of engineering thermodynamics is, energy goes from a higher level to a lower level, it degenerates, meaning even water unrestrained flows downhill, or 30 percent of all people need to be put into a real jail it seems before they will stop their wrong doings and start to do good.. reality.. for self supervision or self regulation does not work, crudely it is just masturbation..

In reality too many people left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully even arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family are still a reality too.
The really bad persons. even bad elders, bad pastors too now, unless they are exposed, punished will likely never change for the good on their own in fact? Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty works best for everyone. Now I have been writing letters to news editors, governments. for that is part of their job now too, and I have helped in exposing the bad guys and the bad corporations for decades too and thus rightfully helping to get rightfully deal with some of the really unacceptable bad guys and so should we all..  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/

The criticism of Rev Hagee, right or wrong?  is just the tip of the iceberg of discontentment against too many so called Christian pastors in America. I know I pastored a church for a few years, and in the last 50 years I have encountered too many many mostly bad pastors, and 70 percent of evangelical pastors have admitted they had committed adultery and they even do counsel divorce for a start. The false misappropriation of funds in many churches in north America is so common so I had rightfully asked even the US government to investigate all of the churches- Pentecostal, Catholic, Baptist for their possible misappropriation of funds equally, annually in fact months ago too.

For a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.

It seems these days Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised?
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/who-is-next/

And Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….

Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media with copies to the elected officials
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/seperation-of-the-state-and-church/

What the Bible says is not the same as what the preacher says still too often

Is it True or false?
Acts 20: 29-31 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one day and night with tears.

II Peter 2:1: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily (in a sneaky way) shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways (lascivious ways, as it reads in the margin); by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment of a long time slumbereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

(1 Cor 11:22 KJV) What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. (James 2:6 KJV) But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

I Samuel 15:22: Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the Word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king

(Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. I John 3:18 exhorts us to love not just in word, but in deed and in truth. Note – Acts 4:35 “And laid them down at the apostles’ feet. And distribution was made to every man according as he had need.” (The money was collected to support the needy in the church and the “tithing” occurs nowhere in this context!) Acts 5:4 “Whiles it remained, was it not thine OWN? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? THOU HAST NOT LIED UNTO MEN, BUT UNTO GOD. Acts 5:8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.” Now why is it so many preachers are not afraid of the lies they make to others, God that they make collecting the tithes, monies today too? Acts 20:27: “For I have not shunned to declare unto you ALL the counsel of God.” ” If monetary tithing had been in force in the early church Paul would surely have mentioned it. Monetary tithing was not enforced in the Church until the sixth century A.D., when it was made church law by two Catholic Church councils in Europe. http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id1.html

Take specifically the case of Ananias and Sapphira. Exactly what specific sin could the couple have committed that was so bad that next God would strike them dead for it? Now their sin even firstly had firstly NOTHING to do with stealing any of monetary tithing. Their death didn’t even happen as punishment for being stingy with their freewill offerings or maybe failing to tithe but it was the clear sin now of “lying” to God firstly about the amount of their OWN money supposedly donated and not at all about any money they had owed to the church. Ananias and his wife had wanted a false credit for giving an amount he didn’t actually give. Like many people who make false church tax donations claims even today. Ananias and Sapphira were the equivalent of welfare cheats, in that they wanted to live off the church funds and still have something hidden away for personal use. Here were two wayward professing Christian sheep trying to pull the wool over God’s eyes, but they didn’t live to brag about it .

“How many “faith” preachers in our day hoard vast riches for themselves while crying to “seed sowers” EVEN THOSE on Social Security to send in money or they’ll go bust! “ “How many of these evil religious, TITHE, donations peddlers shamelessly appeal to the story of Elijah being fed by the last of a starving widow’s flour and oil so they can put more bread in their bank account and fuel their own lusts! done all the while deliberately withholding part of the Truth of His Word from the Body of Christ to leech off of poor brethren so they themselves can splash around in the lap of luxury! ” Some of ye are sick and nigh unto death cause ye do approach the Lord’s table unworthily.

(1 Cor 11:27 KJV) Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

(1 Cor 10:21 KJV) Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils. (1 Cor 6:2 KJV) Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? (Luke 16:11 KJV) If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? (Luke 16:13 KJV) No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. (Mat 6:25 KJV) Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? (Mat 6:31 KJV) Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Reminds me of a women that I know with 3 kids, who had asked the local church for social aid, so next they gave her 7,500 dollars , while she did not declare to them still that she had 25,000 dollars in government bonds in a safe that she was saving for a rainy day.

Or the lying pastor that I knew too from Calgary Bearspaw House of faith who tells everyone that he lived solely by faith in God to supply all of his finical needs neglecting to tell them he also has a church salary, and an expenditure budget. Ironically he simultaneously was even accused of falsifying and misappropriating the expenditures and was eventually dismissed form the church for this too.

The age of grace did not cause God to overlook these unrepentant sins.

“Tithing Truth in a Nutshell

1. Unqualified religious leaders (Gentiles) should not take up tithes.

2. God’s tithe NEVER consisted of money!

3. NOWHERE in either Testament are Christians commanded to pay monetary tithes.

4. Tithes consisted only of agricultural produce.

5. Biblical tithes were also sometimes EATEN by the worshipper himself!

Deuteronomy 14: 22-27 deals with the Festival Tithe, one of three tithes paid by the laity of Israel. I’ve been a believer for many, many years, and NOT ONCE have I ever heard this Scripture passage expounded on by any tithe-taking preacher. I wonder why!

Verse 22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase (harvest) of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

Verse 23 And thou (the tithe-payer!) shalt EAT before the LORD thy God, in the place which He shall chose to place His name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thy olive oil, and of the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always. Tithes were EDIBLE things! Pottery makers and sandal makers didn’t tithe on their products. Unless you raised crops or livestock, you didn’t owe any tithes.

Verse 24 introduces the only context in the whole Bible where money is mentioned in conjunction with tithing! And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set His Name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee;

Verse 25 Then thou shalt turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shalt choose:

Verse 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after; for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and THOU SHALT EAT there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou and thy household,

Verse 27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee (in the Promised Land).

Numbers 18:21-24 says makes it plain that only the sons of Levi were ever authorized by God to collect tithes, and only from the children of Israel. No other tribes of Israel were ever supposed to collect tithes, and the Levitical priesthood ended in 70 A.D. when the Temple was destroyed

Old Testament tithes were never used for building projects, so why is that being done today?

Nowhere in Scripture is any Christian authorized to request the tithe.

Even Jesus did not finance His own ministry with tithes. If He had, He never would have had to say: The Son of Man hath nowhere to lay His head (Matt.8:20).

In Malachi the purpose of the tithe was to keep FOOD, NOT MONEY, in God’s House (Malachi 3:10). Why? The Levites (priestly tribe of Israel) were denied an inheritance (of real estate) in the Promised Land. The tithe was their compensation for this, and their reward for their Tabernacle service (Numbers 18:21-24). Still other tithes were set aside to be consumed by worshippers and the poor at their yearly festivals (Deut.12:17-18; 14:22-27) . Every third year, a special tithe was stored up for the poor within the city gates (Deut.14:28-29).

Tithing was done six years out of every seven. Every seventh year the Land was to lie fallow, to give the land a rest (Lev.25:1-4). No tithes would be collected that year at all. Have you ever heard of any present churchgoer getting a rest every seventh year from paying tithes?

http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id13.html

It still is a a lack of living by faith and a grave sin of covetness for all pastors to distort, hold back part of God’s Truth from the church to protect, insure their own financial income. All sorts of real sinners now had inhabited Jesus’ world 2000 years ago. Harlots, thieves, tax collectors, even murderous brigands like Barabbas. But still now about the only sinners Jesus ever chewed out in the Gospels were the self-righteous Pharisees, who devoured widows’ houses and turned their converts into twice the son of hell as themselves (Matt: 23:14-15). That now includes those false preachers of today who would say that only if you tithe especially to the local pastor’s storehouse you are spiritual.

“ Making Merchandise of the Unpardonable Sin Ezekiel 13:22; Acts 20:27-30

Desperate ministers of deceit are like bloodsuckers who try to squeeze the last drop dry from anemic sheep, the way they change their tactics from bad to worse as they sense the winds of change in My beleaguered body. In time of abundance fishers for funds siphon off a little of the extra fat from well-to-do contributors and even urge poorer saints to be willing to tighten their belts and do without a few luxuries, supposedly for the sake of the “Kingdom of God.” They would dangle a glittery prosperity carrot before the bedazzled eyes of My people, promising that they would be repaid for their generosity on a ratio of a hundred to one. Scriptures would be jerked out of their context to prove I was the ultimate investment, and “you can’t get better odds in Vegas.”

What garbage theology! The promises I made to those who sow seeds into the Kingdom of God meant that a great harvest of souls would be reaped into My eternal Kingdom, and the good works of My Spirit of Grace would be spread abroad to bless many unto a newness of life. As for those who are hardened in heart and love riches more than Me, their dirty money perish with them! Now that times are harder for so many, they are switching from the carrot approach to the stick approach, both diabolical perversions of My Word. Some are filling My children’s hearts with fear that I will execute them like Ananias and Sapphira if they withhold donations from their so-called ministries or refuse to tithe on money, which is nowhere commanded in My Word. Most of those deceivers know that robbing My people of their sustenance is a doctrine of devils! Saints whom I have chosen to enter into My perfect rest of peace have been troubled and I shall surely trouble those who sow lies into their hearts, saith the Lord. Those greedy deceivers who make the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad, I shall make sad in return. That is the only return they will get on their investment of lies. They shall surely have their day in the Court of Heaven to answer for what they have done to hurt and rob My Body.

Satan instills lying guilt feelings in millions of My children today because they are unable to give massive amounts of money to religious organizations. Some are told that it is a sin against the Holy Ghost to be stingy in their contributions and they won’t get to heaven unless they open their wallets more. Unfounded fear of being guilty of the unpardonable sin has ruined the peace and the health of so many of My children. But the unpardonable sin has nothing to do with money! It is a sin against the Love of God which is committed by attributing the wonderful works of My Spirit of Grace to the devil, or speaking slanderous words against My Holy Spirit, which brings eternal alienation from the only One Who can perform the marvelous work of redemption down in your inward parts.

The sin committed by Ananias and Sapphira was to lie to My Holy Spirit, not to refuse to fork over ten percent of their wages to bogus ministries. If this couple had admitted to Peter that they lacked the faith to give all the price of the land and so were only giving part of the money to the church, they would have been spared judgment because they would not have been lying to the apostles. They were not even required to sell their land in the first place, for Peter said unto the couple, “While the land remained, was it not thine own? And after it was sold, was the money not in thine power?” Ananias and Sapphira had the right to either keep their land or sell it, and after they sold it they even had the right to keep the money or just donate part of it. But these deceivers wanted to gain credit for giving a bigger donation than they actually did, in order to live off the church common fund and hold something back for a rainy day. But their rainy day came sooner than they expected, saith the Lord, because you cannot deceive Me. I who weigh the thoughts and intents of the soul know what that two were conspiring against Me, to rob My people.

So who is robbing My people today; poor saints who withhold part of their paycheck from greedy ministers of darkness, or learned religious experts who withhold that part of the Truth of My Word which they find unprofitable, and then boldly declare unto My Church: “I have faithfully declared unto you ALL the counsel of God.” Instead, they sell My people a pack of lies.

Most of the wolves in sheep’s clothing who try to scare My people with the story of Ananias and Sapphira KNOW that the real issue in it was lying to the Holy Spirit, not non-tithing or refusing to give a required donation. But these same false ministers know their Bible inside out and yet they sit on truths I would share with My people which would liberate them from the bondage of fear. These evil men and women take advantage of My people’s ignorance of scripture to pry “tithes” out of them, and to maximize their ministry income so they can live luxuriously like the parasites they are. So who is really guilty, saith the Lord? Those who honestly cannot afford big contributions and don’t give unless I direct them to, or lying deceivers who hold back non-lucrative portions of My Word from their flocks? Poor, destitute saints who hold back part of the amount these mooches want find out in a hurry that it makes these men mean enough to breathe threats at them from the pulpit and over the air. They just can’t stand to have their luxurious lifestyle cramped by the poverty of their listeners. And so these men withhold truths unprofitable to their banks accounts; scriptural truths of the Gospel of Grace which expose the darkness and folly of the lies of the Gospel of Greed. Liberating truths are suppressed which would profit My Body and set them free from the lies which fill them with fear.

I will surely go from place to place, saith the Lord, and I shall cut the leeches off My Body. And I shall surely cut the fetters off My people so they can walk in the liberty unto which I have called them. “ http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id1.html

“Acts Chapter 15 tells of a great theological dispute among early church leaders. Were non-Jewish believers obligated to keep the Law of Moses in order to earn and keep their salvation? None other than the Apostle Peter says that if the Old Law was hard for Jews to bear, why should Gentile believers, who were already justified by faith, have that burdensome yoke placed on them?

The apostles reached a sensible decision. Only four restrictions would be placed upon the liberty of the Gentile believers:

To refrain from:

1. Foods offered to Idols
2. Fornication
3. Meat from strangled animals
4. The consumption of blood

Those original builders of the Church believed that if just those four things were observed, God could surely take care of the rest. Conspicuous by its absence is the Law of Tithing.”
http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id11.html

(Luke 14:26 KJV) If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

(Luke 14:33 KJV) So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of the people, priests receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

do see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

“Preachers are committing this sin by adding Tithing on Wages, NOWHERE taught even under the Old Law! Preachers latch onto the ten per cent figure because it seems like a good idea, regardless of what God thinks. But they neglect the Israelites’ third-year tithe taken to feed the poor (Deut.14:28-29). When was the last time any preacher ever told you to go buy a six-pack of Bud with some of your tithe money? Why all the fuss over one or two isolated and misapplied verses in Malachi 3? Why don’t preachers ever mention THIS tithing passage? It’s in the Bible! I didn’t put it there, so don’t blame ME!

Deut. 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
Verse 23: And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
Verse 24: And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Verse 25: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Verse 26: AND THOU SHALT BESTOW THAT MONEY FOR WHATSOEVER THY SOUL LUSTETH AFTER, FOR OXEN, OR FOR SHEEP, OR FOR WINE, OR FOR STRONG DRINK, OR FOR WHATSOEVER THY SOUL DESIRETH: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household

Notice, tithed produce was sometimes turned into money (the ONLY context in which money is associated with tithing in Scripture), but money itself was not turned in as the tithe! Instead, the tithing farmer or rancher only bought more food with it when he got to Jerusalem, some of which he consumed himself! Tithe-collecting preachers not only ADD TO what God commanded in His Word, they DIMINISH (take away) from God’s Word by forbidding us to go out and buy Bacardi Breezers with “tithe money”. Old sluefoot is thrilled when money-hungry preachers tamper with the terms and conditions of God’s Law, because in Revelation 22:19 God promised to disinherit those who added to or subtracted from Scripture. When preachers say you can’t buy wine or strong drink with “tithe money” they’re actually taking away from Scripture!

Through the Tithing Lie, satan has created a class system of cliques in what originally was a church knit together in the love of Christ, sharing and caring one for another AS EQUALS (Acts 4:34-37; 2 Cor.8:13-14). Those ancient Christians actually shared their possessions with one another. I can just hear some pious preacher yelling that today that means only SPIRITUAL possessions, and hands off HIS Ferrari coupe!

Besides robbing god’s people of their blood-bought freedom from the Law, what OTHER victories does satan win through tithing on monetary wages, which is NOWHERE taught in all of scripture? http://www.scribd.com/doc/4617708/Fasting-Tithing-Blessing-Bringers-or-Burdens

http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id90.html

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”Tithing was divinely instituted by God under the old covenant and was compulsory upon the people who worshiped God ( upon Jews only). Under the new covenant we are not bound by arbitrary laws; but the principles of right and wrong, as expressed by the law, are fulfilled in the believer’s life through grace. Grace should produce as much as or more than law demanded. Regular systematic giving is clearly taught in the New Testament. It is known as the grace of giving. The gauge or rule of this systematic giving is defined in the Old Testament, known as the law of tithing. All Christians should conscientiously and systematically tithe their income to God ( ? )” The Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada CHURCH is a Fellowship of more than 1,100 churches across English- and French-speaking Canada. http://www.paoc.org/ info@paoc.org

The Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada, PAOC CLEARLY LIES, IS GUILTY OF MISLEADING, FALSE STATEMENTS TO ALL CANADIANS TO OBTAIN DONATIONS,

(Lev 27:30 KJV) And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’S: it is holy unto the LORD. 31 And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof. 32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.

(Mal 3:10 KJV) Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

(2 Cor 9:6 -15 KJV) But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work: (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever. Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;) Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God. For the administration of this service not only supplieth the want of the saints, but is abundant also by many thanksgivings unto God; Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men; And by their prayer for you, which long after you for the exceeding grace of God in you. Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.

While I was able to agree with almost all of the PAOC doctrines, statements of faith, next the glaring biblical distortion of the emphasis on the compulsory tithing was unacceptable. Here also there was glaring inconsistency in the preaching OF TITHING over the actual practice, specially even related to the partial biblical quotes now too.. where clearly there is a direct reference as tithing being applicable to help the poor persons. which in fact is not being practiced in realty for a start at all even the definite Biblical requirement that 1/7 of the tithes belongs directly to the local poor persons.. SO IF YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE IN TITHING THEN YOU MUST BELIEVE IN HELPING THE LOCAL POOR PEOPLE WITH IT. AND WE CAN ALL SEE THE EVIDENCE IF IT TOO.

The New Testament Epistles are full of discussions about giving for the support of preachers, teachers, and also the giving to the poor persons: but no where do now in realty do any of the Apostles ask for the tithes directly or indirectly! Will somebody still please show me where in the New Testament we can next find any of the New testament Believers in Christ believers paying tithes specifically, or any of the Apostles asking for tithes? Well? Where? It does not exist in fact!

In reality the Old Testament Book of Malachi the one most often used a reference to application of tithing in the PAOC CHURCH today firstly was written directly ironically too to the bad priests who were stealing the tithe that all belongs to God firstly. The earth is the Lord’s, and every thing in it, the world, and all who live in it. (Psalm 24:1). The book of Malachi firstly is about the prophet Malachi is rebuking the bad priests, the Levites. The tithe payable by the Levites, and main subject is not the tithes payable by the people was the issue, the unpaid tithe here. Ironic that the tithe collection is still too often being abused too often today as well by the PAOC Church , pastors. “The pastors of the PAOC Church pastors have too often abused the tithe, stole the TITHE monies, and I had often now turned them into the the authorities myself too , including the PAOC Calgary Christian centre as I have also detailed on the net to all why too.

For decades now too I have known many PAOC Christians who boasted to me of their tithing while they continued to commit immoral, unacceptable acts. Tithing was a part of the Old Testament law, and not the New Testament Covenant. It is again interesting that those who believe we must enforce tithe today that they do not follow the entire letter of the law in this matter in their preaching of the New Testament, new Covenant for the law required also several tithes, including tithing to the local poor persons, all which would amount to considerably more than ten percent.

Also now according to the same Bible all persons who received any portions of the tithes now too were not allowed to own any property as well. False Boasting, faith by works is too often associated with tithing AND WE ARE NOT TO WALK “Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 5:9 We too often hear Church sermons on the need to give money to the local storehouse, supposedly the local church, under the heading of tithing being even applicable today? Now is it? How come most of the hypocrites, liars who preach on the demands of the laws of tithing today neglect to firstly themselves to practice on all of the other inclusive laws related to tithing as well. Or are they deliberately or undeliberately ignorant of these other applicable Biblical laws? Just cause a person tithes, does not mean he is spiritual, more likely he is still even coming tax evasion, cheating, steal, absuing in my personal witness and experiences even in the PAOC churches now. (Psa 112:9 KJV) He hath dispersed, he hath given to the poor; his righteousness endureth for ever; his horn shall be exalted with honour.

(Acts 15:14 KJV) Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

Firstly the promised restoration of the tabernacle of David mentioned in the book of Acts is not the restoration of tithing, Jerusalem as the center of Worship, any land of Israel now too, and it was, is not for sure a nationalistic Israel empire building.. The promised restoration of the tabernacle of David is solely foremost by the substitutionary innocent death of Jesus Christ next actually is the experience of the personal “Baptism of the Holy Spirit”, Pentecostalism, and the restoration of the related personal method of the worship of God directly, David danced before the Lord, and thus also it is not just the formation of CHRIST’S Church.

(John 4:23 KJV) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth..

Too many even professing Christian persons are not familiar with the Bible , THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THEY THUS DO HAVE A FALSE UNDERSTANDING OF JESUS CHRIST, Tithing, etc., Most persons do not know the Bible really well, in fact they really have not studied the Bible still firsthand and sadly most people wrongfully rely mostly, heavily on what the others do tell them even as to the supposed truth in regard to tithing in the Bible..

Too often I had entered a PAOC church for the first time and I was greeted by the pastor and he wanted immediately to know where I was working, what kind of work I and he did not at all ask rather about my poor health which had prevented me from working at that time. Now also I CLEARLY SAW THE GLIMMER IN THE HE PASTOR EYES COUNTING THE POTENTIAL INCOME. HE WRONGFULLY HAD HIS EYES ON MAN TO SUPPLY HIS NEEDS AND NOT GOD.

Other Christians, even a church secretary even, bragged to me that they were paid up in the annual tithe but admitted to me they also had not paid all of the taxes cause they had committed tax evasions, for after all their pastor now had did the same thing. (Luke 20:25 KJV) And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s.

THE SUBJECT OF TITHING OFTEN CAUSES SOME PERSONS GREAT STRESS AND EVEN CHURCH DIVISIONS, FALSE PERSECUTIONS AS WELL.

(1 Tim 6:10 KJV) For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

IT IS NOT YOUR TITHING THAT WILL BLESS YOU FIRSTLY BUT IT IS GOD HIMSELF.. (Prov 10:22 KJV) The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

IT IS TRUE, A FACT THAT FOR many years many people have been looking even for the one Bible verse that would make them rich and famous too. AND TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE LEAD FALSELY TO BELIEVE THAT TITHING WILL LEAD TO, GUARANTEE FINANCIAL PROSPERITY. Well prosperity that now happens one day at a time with our walk with Jesus, it is firstly a spiritual one, for we are rich in Him and famous for our great exploits through Him as well not rather solely Money, the love of which is the root of all evil still.. I am also tired of hearing from the persons who wrongfully distort, take one isolated verse about prosperity being wealth, money and they do also wrongfully leave out all of the rest of the Bible verses that speak on giving to the poor and needy, about overall true prosperity and not just more money now as well.. these type of preachers it seems are wrongfully mostly selfish and unbalanced persons still, not real loving Christians also. (3 John 1:2 KJV) Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.  prospering greatly in the Lord firstly? with personal visible good works too? good works on behalf of others, the poor and needy persons too?

(2 Cor 8:1 KJV) Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia; 2 How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality. 3 For to their power, I bear record, yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves; 4 Praying us with much entreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints. 5 And this they did, not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.

Ministering to the saints does not mean solely religious empire building, paying of building funds, and the physical maintenance costs. You do not need a church building to practice tithing and ministering to the saints.(Deu 16:17 KJV) Every man shall give as he is able, according to the blessing of the LORD thy God which he hath given thee. .

IN THE NEW TESTAMENT (1 Corinthians 16:2 KJV) “Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.” Note nothing about a minimum amount in specific tithing obligations was, is mentioned here and why? (GalATIANS 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

God has designed the churches also should help the poor, help one another, other churches, and that can next also include any other ministries that God will, will lead you to give to now as well.. a real ministry is where someone actually looks after the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock of God, not just in words, but with real visible , good deeds.

(Mat 7:20 KJV) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. (Mat 7:21 KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Luke 16:9 KJV) And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations. (Luke 16:10 KJV) He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
(Luke 16:11 KJV) If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? (Luke 16:12 KJV) And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man’s, who shall give you that which is your own? (Luke 16:13 KJV) No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Now what does the Bible actually really say about tithing overall?

You firstly in love and gratitude give back to God for his love, for his goodness you bring the gift, tithes to God through yourself and yes you ensure it is administered directly to the Christian workers, the poor and needy persons, even a set portion of the tithe and then you start to also give some more love offerings for the mortgages, the other needs.. Giving is always more than the minimum 10 percent of one’s income, tithe in the old testament for a start.

Now it is true that tithing existed and was practiced in the Old Testament and a set portion of these tithes were also to be given to the local poor persons too. In fact at least 19 % of these Biblical commanded tithes were to be given directly to the local poor persons. Too Many Churches today falsely do rob God by asking for just the tithe giving and next also wrongfully use it to pay the mortgage, building expenses.

and/or what they do also not use the same tithes today to help practically the poor persons in their own church? even the designated Old Testament amount of 19 % of the tithe?

Are you aware of a PAOC church that gives of the portion of the collected tithes directly, systematically to their poor? do they disclose it openly too?

Furthermore undeniably too the Old Testament Levites, and the poor persons, or anyone who would enjoy the benefits of the tithes they did not own or could not own any land, or a house. The Lord God stated that the Levites would have no inheritance of land but would be given a portion of the tithe instead. Such an injunction would also apply today to anyone claiming a right to receive a tithe too.

Numbers 18:20 (NIV) 20 The LORD said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites..

(Deu 12:17 KJV) Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:(Deu 14:23 KJV) And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.

(Neh 10:38 KJV) And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house.

The Biblical reality also now that only 10 percent of the collected tithe in the Old testament every three years went directly to the storehouse?

Also, every third year, the Israelite was required to store his tithe in his own town to feed the fatherless, aliens, and widows as required by the Lord. This was the tithe of the poor. (ma’aser ani)(Deuteronomy 14:22-29, 26:12-15) (Amos 4:4-5)

The tithe was also paid directly to the storehouse only every 3rd year? and the other two years the thither himself enjoyed the tithes himself by now also personally feasting on it? Did you ever hear your PAOC preacher tell you that and why not? Obviously he wanted your share of the tithe.

And why now have any of the today’s PAOC pastors not even mentioned ALL OF these Biblical verses, truths too in all honesty? rather they like you to believe that then and not all of the tithes was to be given to the local church for them wrongfully to do as they want.. which was not so at all AND NOT in the Old or New Testament. Even the Apostles were accountable, transparent to the church elders in all they did.

Deuteronomy 14:22-29 (NIV) 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put his Name is so far away), 2 5 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. 28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.

Deuteronomy 26:12-15 (NIV) 12 When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied. 13 Then say to the LORD your God: “I have removed from my house the sacred portion and have given it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, according to all you commanded. I have not turned aside from your commands nor have I forgotten any of them. 14 I have not eaten any of the sacred portion while I was in mourning, nor have I removed any of it while I was unclean, nor have I offered any of it to the dead. I have obeyed the LORD my God; I have done everything you commanded me. 15 Look down from heaven, your holy dwelling place, and bless your people Israel and the land you have given us as you promised on oath to our forefathers, a land flowing with milk and honey.”

Deuteronomy 12:4-19 (NIV) 4 You must not worship the LORD your God in their way. 5 But you are to seek the place the LORD your God will choose from among all your tribes to put his Name there for his dwelling. To that place you must go; 6 there bring your burnt offerings and sacrifices, your tithes and special gifts, what you have vowed to give and your freewill offerings, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks. 7 There, in the presence of the LORD your God, you and your families shall eat and shall rejoice in everything you have put your hand to, because the LORD your God has blessed you. 8 You are not to do as we do here today, everyone as he sees fit, 9 since you have not yet reached the resting place and the inheritance the LORD your God is giving you. 10 But you will cross the Jordan and settle in the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, and he will give you rest from all your enemies around you so that you will live in safety. 11 Then to the place the LORD your God will choose as a dwelling for his Name-there you are to bring everything I command you: your burnt offerings and sacrifices, your tithes and special gifts, and all the choice possessions you have vowed to the LORD. 12 And there rejoice before the LORD your God, you, your sons and daughters, your menservants and maid servants, and the Levites from your towns, who have no allotment or inheritance of their own. 13 Be careful not to sacrifice your burnt offerings anywhere you please. 14 Offer them only at the place the LORD will choose in one of your tribes, and there observe everything I command you. 15 Nevertheless, you may slaughter your animals in any of your towns and eat as much of the meat as you want, as if it were gazelle or deer, according to the blessing the LORD your God gives you. Both the ceremonially unclean and the clean may eat it. 16 But you must not eat the blood; pour it out on the ground like water. 17 You must not eat in your own towns the tithe of your grain and new wine and oil, or the firstborn of your herds and flocks, or whatever you have vowed to give, or your freewill offerings or special gifts. 18 Instead, you are to eat them in the presence of the LORD your God at the place the LORD your God will choose-you, your sons and daughters, your menservants and maidservants, and the Levites from your towns-and you are to rejoice before the LORD your God in everything you put your hand to. 19 Be careful not to neglect the Levites as long as you live in your land.

Amos 4:4-5 (NIV) 4 “Go to Bethel and sin; go to Gilgal and sin yet more. Bring your sacrifices every morning, your tithes every three years. 5 Burn leavened bread as a thank offering and brag about your freewill offerings- boast about them, you Israelites, for this is what you love to do,” declares the Sovereign LORD.

Heb.7:1 For this Melchisidec, King of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all;. . . 4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

In Genesis chapter 14, Abraham goes out to rescue his nephew Lot, who along with many others has been kidnapped. The kidnappers had ransacked the towns of Sodom and Gomorrah where Lot lived, and were on their way back to their own cities. Abraham took 318 servants with him, (boy was he rich), and rescued Lot’s family. He also took from the kidnappers all the loot they had obtained during their raids. After restoring the personal property of the residents of Sodom, he gave 10% of the loot to Melchisidec. This time, and this time only, are we ever told that Abraham pays tithes to anyone. There is no mention that he went home to round up 10% of the goods he had there, and anyone who could produce his own 318 man army was not poor. We are nowhere told that Abraham ever paid tithes on any of his income again. If Abraham establishes a law for Christians regarding tithing, then if you give away 10% of your next windfall, you have imitated Abraham. The purpose of Hebrews chapter 7 is not to establish a law of tithing, but to show how Jesus Christ was foreshadowed in symbols and figures throughout the Old Testament.

(Gen 28:21 KJV) So that I come again to my father’s house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God: Jacob said, “Of all that Thou shalt give me, I will surely give the tenth unto Thee” (Gen.28:22).

We can presume from these words, that Jacob did, from that point, give the tenth to God: but to whom did he give it? How did he give it to God? There were no “clergymen” around to collect these tithes, and neither was there a Temple to bring them to. Perhaps Jacob gave these tithes to the poor; perhaps they were consumed in offerings by fire, but one thing is for sure: these tithes were not going into someone’s “storehouse”. Note: this was not a command to Jacob from God, but a vow made by Jacob to God. The antiquity of any practice does not make it a law for the Church.

Matt. 23: 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint, and anise, and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ye ought to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24 Ye blind guides! which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

It is obvious that the Lord Jesus told the Jews, the Pharisees specially to not neglect paying the obligatory tithe and next asa a reflection of His judgment on them: in that they were not of His sheep. It was characteristic of Our Lord Jesus to encourage the self righteous in their works, and even to increase the requirement, so as to show them that they were not made righteous by these works.

Let’s look at again the few New Testament supposedly applicable verses on tithing.

(1 Cor 16:2 KJV) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.

The percentage amount of the individual’s donation firstly is not specified here though, not even even implied not even the old testament standard of 10 percent of one’s income or the amount to be given to the poor persons. Now why is that?

EVEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT SOME PERSONS LIED ABOUT THEIR THEIR TITHES, INCOMES

(Acts 5:3 KJV) But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
Coming back to the Old Testament verses also on tithing..
“There were several types of tithes, according to the source of Israelites’ income: the tithes from the land (seed and fruit) and the tithes from the domestic animals (flock and herd). In other words, God HAD expected His people to set aside one tenth of all increase (income).”

(Exo 34:26 KJV) The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.

(Exo 23:16 KJV) And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field.

(Lev 23:10 KJV) Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

(Num 28:26 KJV) Also in the day of the firstfruits, when ye bring a new meat offering unto the LORD, after your weeks be out, ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work:

(Deu 26:10 KJV) And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O LORD, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before the LORD thy God, and worship before the LORD thy God:

(2 Chr 31:5 KJV) And as soon as the commandment came abroad, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of corn, wine, and oil, and honey, and of all the increase of the field; and the tithe of all things brought they in abundantly.

(Neh 10:35 KJV) And to bring the firstfruits of our ground, and the firstfruits of all fruit of all trees, year by year, unto the house of the LORD:

(Neh 10:37 KJV) And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.

(Prov 3:9 KJV) Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase:

(Ezek 20:40 KJV) For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.

(Ezek 44:30 KJV) And the first of all the firstfruits of all things, and every oblation of all, of every sort of your oblations, shall be the priest’s: ye shall also give unto the priest the first of your dough, that he may cause the blessing to rest in thine house.
In Reality..

“God’s people OF THE OLD TESTAMENT and note this in the book of acts, New Testament too, practiced Sharing, the Jews practiced between the Israelites who received their inheritance from God (the land) and with those who did not posses such inheritance – Levites, strangers, orphans, and widows. If we examine the figures, the number of Israelites versus the number of Levites and the percentage that the Israelites were to give to the Levites and the poor (one third of 10%),( about 19% percent of the tithe) we will find that each would end up with an equal share. This is the principle that was observed in the distribution of manna: one who gathered much had nothing left over and the one who gathered little had no lack. Sharing was the community coming together with their families/neighbors and sharing in the atmosphere of joy and celebration before the Lord. ”

(Lev 27:30 KJV) And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’S: it is holy unto the LORD.
The tithe always is God’s not the churches, pastor’s, priests, etc.,
(Lev 27:32 KJV) And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.
(Num 18:26 KJV) Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe.
(Deu 14:22 KJV) Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
(2 Chr 31:5 KJV) And as soon as the commandment came abroad, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of corn, wine, and oil, and honey, and of all the increase of the field; and the tithe of all things brought they in abundantly.
(2 Chr 31:6 KJV) And concerning the children of Israel and Judah, that dwelt in the cities of Judah, they also brought in the tithe of oxen and sheep, and the tithe of holy things which were consecrated unto the LORD their God, and laid them by heaps.
(Neh 13:12 KJV) Then brought all Judah the tithe of the corn and the new wine and the oil unto the treasuries.
(Lev 27:31 KJV) And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.
(Num 18:24 KJV) But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.
(Num 18:26 KJV) Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe.
(Num 18:28 KJV) Thus ye also shall offer an heave offering unto the LORD of all your tithes, which ye receive of the children of Israel; and ye shall give thereof the LORD’S heave offering to Aaron the priest.
(Deu 12:6 KJV) And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks:
(Deu 12:11 KJV) Then there shall be a place which the LORD your God shall choose to cause his name to dwell there; thither shall ye bring all that I command you; your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the heave offering of your hand, and all your choice vows which ye vow unto the LORD:
(Deu 26:12 KJV) When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;
(2 Chr 31:12 KJV) And brought in the offerings and the tithes and the dedicated things faithfully: over which Cononiah the Levite was ruler, and Shimei his brother was the next.
(Neh 10:37 KJV) And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.
(Neh 10:38 KJV) And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house.
(Neh 12:44 KJV) And at that time were some appointed over the chambers for the treasures, for the offerings, for the firstfruits, and for the tithes, to gather into them out of the fields of the cities the portions of the law for the priests and Levites: for Judah rejoiced for the priests and for the Levites that waited.
(Neh 13:5 KJV) And he had prepared for him a great chamber, where aforetime they laid the meat offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the corn, the new wine, and the oil, which was commanded to be given to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the offerings of the priests.
(Amos 4:4 KJV) Come to Bethel, and transgress; at Gilgal multiply transgression; and bring your sacrifices every morning, and your tithes after three years:
(Mal 3:8 KJV) Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 10 Bring ye all ( all ) the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat ( note this food for the workers was the purpose of the tithe) in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

And still coming back to the Old Testament you are to give all of the tithe to God, all of the tithe, all of of it belongs to him, and you next gave 1/7 of this tithe to the local poor people, and the balance of the tithe was to go 100 percent to the support of of the Christian workers and their families. Not to any building programs, loans, mortgages..

Note this that none cent of the tithe, not one cent of the tithe, now still was to go to the temple upkeep, or to the mortgages, building funds.. for there were other specific offerings to be collected for this.. Is this than also being practiced by the PAOC today? No! and why not if tithing is applicable today in full?

Now some Pentecostal churches do try to even make you sign an agreement that you will give ten percent of your tithes to their church and they will let you next become a member of their church.. and in my own wittiness some of these PAOC pastors, elders, tithers of these churches committed tax evasions, even stole some of the monies , are and were mostly materialistic oriented and not spiritual too.
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Basically enforced tithing, like circumcision, is an Old testament Law and thus is not really enforced in the New Testament.. for in the New Testament you give to God of yourself, all of it, and next all of your money.. all of it belongs to God and He God spends it the way He God wants.. (1 Cor 16:1 KJV) Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.

The New Testament city Churches supported the poor people even in the local city church unlike most PAOC Churches today. And now too many people, pastors, elders do steal from all of God’s money today in reality as I myself have too often witnessed in churches too and thus they are still thieves.

(1 Cor 10:24 KJV) Let no man seek his own, but every man another’s wealth. and that means caring about their physical well being now as well.
(Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
(Rom 15:25 KJV) But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. 26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem. 27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things.
(Isa 58:6 KJV) Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? 7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
(Dan 4:27 KJV) Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by showing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity.
(Mat 10:42 KJV) And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward. (Mat 25:37 KJV) Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
(Mat 5:19 KJV) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Here AGAIN are a few basic facts, truths from the Bible that need also to be considered.The “tithe” itself is reserved for certain functions, persons now as well.. and no man can still force any one to tithe. The message of Jesus is that God is not in need of money but of a humble, sacrificial spirit.

(Mat 17:24 KJV) And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? 25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? 26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? Acts 5:4
(2 Cor 9:7 KJV) Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work: 8 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.`10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)

Furthermore only the persons who did not own any land, a house the Old Testament Levites, the poor enjoyed the benefits of the third year tithes
Numbers 18:20 (NIV) 20 The LORD said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites

At least up to 19 % of the Biblical tithe was to be given directly to the local poor persons

Deuteronomy 26:12-15 (NIV) 12 When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied

Deuteronomy 14: 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.

10 percent of tithe only was paid directly to the storehouse and only every 3rd year?
Neh. 10:37-38 “.to bring the firstfruits. and to bring the tithes of our land to the Levites, for the Levites should receive the tithes in all our farming communities. And the priest, the descendant of Aaron, shall be with the Levites when the Levites receive tithes; and the Levites shall bring up a tenth of the tithes to the house of our God, to the rooms of the storehouse.”

and the other two years the tither and his family enjoyed the tithes by even feasting on it.The people of Israel were required to assemble three times a year at Jerusalem (as the place chosen by the Lord) for the major feasts.

(Deu 12:17 KJV) Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:
(Deu 14:23 KJV) And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.

The Israelite was not commanded to tithe on everything he obtained and used throughout the year, but only on his increase at the end of the year. ( The increase minus his actual expenditures during the year, or the final year end profit?)

Deut.14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

“Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this,” says the Lord of hosts, “if I will not open for you the windows of heaven, and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows” (Malachi 3:10).

There were four tithes in Israel under the Old Covenant. Which one is referred to here?
And the priest, the son of Aaron, shall be with the Levites when the Levites receive tithes, and the Levites shall bring up the tenth of the tithes to the house of our God, to the chambers of the storehouse (Nehemiah 10:38).

The Mosaic Law of Tithing was never 10% of everything you get.

The Temple (now considered to be the church-house) did not receive all of the tithes that were given by the Israelites.

Tithing was neither commanded nor fully observed in the early church.

Tithing as a covenant of prosperity is effective only for those who seek to be justified by keeping all of the Law which is not possible anyway.

Those who demand 10% of everything you get, are identified with the Scribes and the Pharisees, who were still the historic enemies of Christ.

(Heb 13:5 KJV) Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

(Mark 9:41 KJV) For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.

Please ALSO do not get any false impression that I am against voluntary tithing to the Lord Jesus Christ, or voluntary giving to the Lord Jesus Christ, AND to the poor persons.

I am rightfully  against THE THIEVES WHO STEAL TITHING UNDER FALSE PRETENCES, FALSE PREACHING, or those persons trying to earn, buy their way into heaven, and also their now giving on the too often false man defined mandates that the still mostly false pastors themselves do define it.. and

The fact that at least 60 percent of the evangelical pastors I have dealt with are very inadequate, even rather mere hirelings who lie, slander, abuse others, gossip, cheat, steal, commit tax evasions, tolerate divorce wrongfully etc, and do not really follow after the Lord.

We need to have a better biblical account of how the Lord’s money is spent.

(Rom 15:1 KJV) We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.

(1 Cor 16:22 KJV) If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

(Mat 7:16 KJV) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

(Mat 7:20 KJV) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God. Phil. 1:11

I know for a fact also that Robbing God of his tithes, misappropriating them and denying the poor their portion of the tithes devastates a church as well.

(Luke 19:46 KJV) Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.

The perverse prosperity prostitutes, adulterers abound even in PAOC churches. It has been my too many years of personal experiences that the perverse prosperity prostitutes, adulterers, idolterers persons, who mainly tithe to get richer and not rather to help the poor persons, for they do generally as well despise the poor and needy persons, covet to be rich they can be found in both the secular and religious camps, and their behaviors tend to be very similar. Even the religious persons, the rather still carnal persons, the Judas followers, while they now even do profess to be moral good living persons still when it comes to making more money they clearly bend their rules on morality, ethics, honesty, and they will even cheat, lie steal to acquire more wealth. they mainly still also do see other people as slave objects, slaves that can be used to help them increase their personal acquisitions and they will cast out, sell out their poor relatives, relationships still too.. but they still will even profess to be good persons now too. and try to by their way into heaven.

(Mat 25:34 KJV) Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment:

(James 2:1 KJV) My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

(1 Tim 5:8 KJV) But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

(1 John 1:9 KJV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

(Jer 2:20 KJV) For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.

(Prov 29:14 KJV) The king that faithfully judgeth the poor, his throne shall be established for ever.

The twisting of scriptures, taking isolated verses to justify immoral acts is so common these days even in the conservative evangelical . PAOC circles so that it is not even funny anymore.

A BAD PASTORAL BOARD, COUNSEL OR A BAD BOARD, COMMITTEE OF THIEVES? WHOSE TAX EXEMPTION PRIVILEGES CLEARLY RATHER SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY, THE PAOC INCLUDED.

For example : A clearly greedy, misery, cheap, evangelical writer was wrongfully trying to justify his not giving of his income to any others, the poor people with the isolated Bible verses.. (Exo 20:17 KJV) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s. OR (Acts 5:4 KJV) Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power?

AND he had falsely neglected the other verses of the bible that said to give to the poor and needy persons.

So I prayed and I asked God directly what he thought of it .. and he immediately replied to me.. (Luke 6:38 KJV) Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

(Mat 19:21 KJV) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

(Luke 19:8 KJV) And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.

(Deu 15:11 KJV) For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.

(3 John 1:2 KJV) Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. 3 For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth. 4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth. 5 Beloved, thou doest faithfully whatsoever thou doest to the brethren, and to strangers; 6 Which have borne witness of thy charity before the church:

(1 John 2:10 KJV) He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

(Gal 5:16 KJV) This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

(1 John 2:16 KJV) For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

(Phil 4:11 KJV) Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content. 12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. 13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. 14 Notwithstanding ye have well done, that ye did communicate with my affliction.

(1 Tim 6:9 KJV) But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

(Deu 24:14 KJV) Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant that is poor and needy, whether he be of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that are in thy land within thy gates: 15 At his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun go down upon it; for he is poor, and setteth his heart upon it: lest he cry against thee unto the LORD, and it be sin unto thee.

(Rom 13:9 KJV) For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

(1 Tim 6:8 KJV) And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

(Heb 13:5 KJV) Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

(Mat 6:19 KJV) 19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. 22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! 24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: 29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

(John 15:5 KJV) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

One of the most quoted verses for blessing, prosperity of the New Testament is also too often taken out of it’s context..

the New testament content too is any financial blessing we get is to help our Christian brothers and sisters financially as well.. not solely indulging in ourselves too

(Deu 26:9 KJV) And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. 10 And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O LORD, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before the LORD thy God, and worship before the LORD thy God: 11 And thou shalt rejoice in every good thing which the LORD thy God hath given unto thee, and unto thine house, thou, and the Levite, and the stranger that is among you.

THERE IS ONLY ONE BIBLE, ONE FAITH FOR PERSONAL SALVATION , ONE FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE, AND ONE BODY OF CHRIST, ONE GOD, AND ONE TEMPLE, IT IS THE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS THE CHRIST.
(Gen 28:21-22 KJV) So that I come again to my father’s house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God: Jacob said, “Of all that Thou shalt give me, I will surely give the tenth unto Thee” FIRSTLY WAS A FREE WILL CHOICE..

I also rightfully still do not endorse any Christians adds, anyone, any person, any organization, any Church now trying to make any money from selling the gospel, any of Bibles, books, tapes listed for sale too or begging, asking for money . . Jesus said as we have freely received so we are freely to give. Hirelings in their greed and visible lack of faith don’t do that. I do believe we should all live by faith in God to supply our needs, and to have the faith for God to supply it. The Honorable Rev George Muellar did.
Bad Preachers, ” Spiritual deceivers are spiritual gigolos coming between Me and My Bride the Church. They are trying to force My redeemed ones back under a dead Law, to whom they are no longer married. They are spiritual butchers with surgical instruments who want only to “circumcise” the gullible with just a “little bit” of My Law to cut off “just a little bit of their liberty”…. Preachers forever strive to “bring you under submission”. That seems to be oh, so spiritual, but what they really want is to bring you under bondage to be their slaves. But beware of bowing your necks to preachers to allow them to put that yoke of bondage upon you ever again.http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id74.html

I have now personally learned decades and decades ago that most of the Brethren not just the too many bad pastors are also deceitful, nasty, abusive and really unacceptably bad.. they falsely are control freaks, who falsely love to practice divorce, even the silent treatment to those who do not give them what they want.. do now see also the postings on the topics in http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/

One of the best way to catch fish, suckers is to use a snared hook, loaded with live bait. Many Many bad preachers do use do use genuine live bait, a genuine sounding doctrine, truth but adding a lie, a hook also, to the unsuspecting naieve person, the bad preacher now telling them, guaranteeing them a Divine Appointment, that he will next share with them, and will tell them only the whole truth.. even all now based solely on the solid rock of the preserved Word of God, even as God himself now opens doors for me to touch the lives of others, and WOW, Unbelievable, and sadly YES too often that is true.. suckers are caught with a hook.. in churches, on TV too, Unbelievable.. all occurring sadly of course by the PRESENTER, AUTHOR, bad preacher unacceptably neglecting to tell them all beforehand about the hidden lies, the false snares, hooks of course!!!

The false hooks of mere man’s interpretations, mere men’s teachings and not God’s now as well.. a false detour, deviation actually next from the real truth in the Bible, even from the Holy Sprit’s personal teachings now to, all made now to make sure you will never see God’s whole truths. Mind you and do note how how really subtle the devil is here now too. Not surprisingly the devil also now uses the same techniques when he uses the Mormons, the Jehovah Witnesses, and others to get you hooked on their distortions, lies, reinterpretations too..
I too now have learned decades and decades ago that the Brethren are most often deceitful in their evangelical outreach, presentations.. meaning that they speak with a forked tongue, and meaning they generally are not straightforward and honest, immediately forthcoming what they really believe in, who they really are now firstly too, and so we all have to beware of them.. and now I have known much too many of them too.. and I had next found just a few of them that were really honest, Christians, only a very, very small portion.

When I look at a new professing Christian site such as vision20twenty and it makes the typical general proclamations that they will next guide and lead us into all truth, and only will offer the whole truth, and that they are also non denominational, real Christians, who now do promote now only the Bible and nothing more than that and based on my past encounters, experiences now I can most often be rest assured they are mere wolves in sheep clothing, the false Brethren with their false dispensational doctrines… including now http://vision20twenty.org/  where” God gave man a new dispensation (stewardship) of truth”

Especially too when there are few Dispensationalist who ado even agree with each other, who do even believe in most of the same things, do as well accept the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit, or the present existence of the of 5 fold New testament Biblical Ministry offices of Ephesians.

(Mat 19:21 KJV) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
(Luke 6:40 KJV) The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

(John 17:23 KJV) I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

(Rom 12:2 KJV) And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

(Gal 3:3 KJV) Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

(Eph 4:13 KJV) Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

(Rev 3:2 KJV) Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Do see http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/subtle-but-still-false-counterfeit/

(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
(Acts 20:30 KJV) Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
(Acts 20:31 KJV) Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
(Acts 20:32 KJV) And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.
(Acts 20:33 KJV) I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.
(Acts 20:34 KJV) Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
(Acts 20:35 KJV) I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
(2 Tim 3:2 KJV) For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(2 Tim 3:3 KJV) Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
(2 Tim 3:4 KJV) Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
(2 Tim 3:5 KJV) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(2 Tim 3:6 KJV) For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
(2 Tim 3:7 KJV) Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
That last line is now really true..

IT IS NOW MORE RARE BUT I DO ALSO NOW STILL GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS BULLIES, ABUSERS TOO..

The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” .. clearly these immoral Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth, most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result of that the bully, he or she, tries falsely to build their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against his proclaimed enemies, which too often also is most people , for he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt, and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others. I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also in religious fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

Abused. One of my most often written about subject on the net.. even whether it is verbal, mental, physical abuses now too..The abuser too often tries to make the victim look as they are guilty ones, and that too is always unacceptable  And who are these abusers? why is is that they so readily abuse others now too? They tend to be persons who have their own value system, and clearly also a lack of love for others, EVEN  I NOW THAT NAME CALLING IS THE ACTS OF IMMORAL , REALLY DISTURBED PERSONS.. JEWISH LOVERS HAVE FOR A LONG TIME SPITTED THEIR WORDS OF HATRED AND NEXT FIST ME CAUSE THEY DO THAT TO EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT GIVE INTO THEIR FALSE WAYS. Abused. ironically some of the people claiming that someone else has been abusing them EVEN JEWS NEXT have been the major abuser themselves and that is why they are so conscious of the other persons supposedly abusing them.. another case of one’s need in dealing with the beam in one’s eye over the toothpick in the other persons eye.. AND the older they are the more hardship they personally do  need to experience to change FOR THE GOOD NOW too…YOU CAN ASLO often notice the opposition political party accusing the governing party of abuse when they now also have done the same thing ? I also do know from observing others that anyone’s abusing a Christian can lead to one’s early death.  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. (1 Cor 13:3 KJV)  Matt 32:29 You shall love your neighbour as yourself.. and that means you will do him no harm now too.
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:22

When the Dispensationalists, Messianic Jews,  Jewish lovers as well they cannot stay with the facts truths presented they rather falsely do have to go crazy on you personally instead They tend to imply the others the non alcoholics, are unspiritual, crazy cause they rather are so sensitive as to what you really are still firstly by their false diversionary personal attacks, approach? When you criticize or disagree openly some of these very bad evil persons one tends to get a false denial, a remark in response like you are crazy, you need professional help. They still really cannot face the reality there are things in their life that need serious, drastic changes. These people in denial are the ones who often need professional help for their own short comings, sickness. Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about their own unacceptable acts. These People in the state of false denials, clearly also who lie often, they do now also tend to have severe personal, mental disorders next even cause one tends to eventually believe next ones own lies as being the truth, and they can no   longer differentiate their own lies from reality, the truth. By their false denials Who is fooling whom? You cannot fool all the people all the time and now matter how smart you are there is still someone more wiser who can see the truth still too.. these bad, ignorant clearly unloving, Holy Spirit ignorant too persons they really should not even be on the net preaching to others till they get matured, wiser. Their Narcissistic, selfish, self centered Mental Disorders are too evident now even in these persons who falsely to dwell in self-absorption, fantasy, illusion, where she or he has exaggerated claims to talents, importance, or specialness, manifesting evidence of a need for constant admiration from others, a lack of empathy for all others, persistent in this too, have rigid personality traits and coping styles, clearly inflexible, do show a hypersensitivity to any criticism , defeat or negative realities thus they rather are pathological in denial by the their falsity, contrived replacement of the truths which they still must face eventually . These SEVERE PERSONALITY disorders are generally personally ongoing too even leading to more impaired social and/or occupational functioning and can make it difficult to pinpoint a clear dividing line between their pathology and their so called normality. Most of these people with their personality disorders may not perceive that there is anything wrong with their behavior and thus they are not motivated to change it. It is important to note that these personality disorders are considered to have their onset in late adolescence or early adulthood and they alone are responsible for it too. It is sad that there are so many childish, unloving, dogmatic, slanderous person, arrogant, even the pretend Christians who do falsely believe they are better than other persons now cause they have hold of one truth. Now if you do not agree with them, dare to oppose them in anyway they will go crazy on you, resort to a personal attack on you, calling you slanderous names, insulting you, falsely even trying to attack you as being immoral, demonic, an antichrist or what ever as they are in false denial to the real truth and why? their pride will not let them admit now that they have been deceivers and have been deceived..

Again false Denial, it is very   common when confronted with the truth the denier they often respond with a similar personal counter attack remark as ”you are crazy”. “I reject your reality… and substitute my own.” Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about themselves still though. Sadly it is a negative natural human tendency to devolve into denial.” It’s not just a moral compass that’s lacking, but the ability to honest, or to stand apart. Denial often comes out of a false pride, a fear of being openly exposed as being wrong. Denial is a false convenient escape, excuse for inaction for persons now facing a situation that requires a decision or action that conflicts with his or her established past policy. Denial too often can be further disastrous upon themselves and others.. for denial is not seeing data at all or seeing it and coming to an erroneous conclusion within oneself. One’s false denial is often based on a false assumption of one’s past great success and often precedes their own severe personal failure next due to a personal disconnect with real life. https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-lies-of-the-false-Christian-Zionism-Movement/166907416793938?ref=hl

PS God’s package through Jesus is very comprehensive.. it includes personal salvation, eternal life, full forgiveness of sins, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, healing too.. why do so many people only want to accept a part of it now too? So many people also do want to be made whole, well, but they do not want Jesus as their Lord in their life.. sorry that is not possible.. Jesus is the whole life, he is also the essential, only part of the whole healing. Jesus not only heals gradually, even by Doctors but also fully miraculously even today. Jesus can always do what Doctors cannot.

and do see also
http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/god-can-do-a-lot-more-than-just-heal/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/rev-george-muller/

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26522

http://www.bsmi.org/download/mueller/GeorgeMuellerOfBristol.pdf

Do see also

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